I say, if you rape off campus, when you come back to campus, youre still a rapist.. We now offer both a men and womens monthly formation series that addresses mental health, healthy relationships, and other gender-specific topics. [20][circular reference] When meeting with College President Dr. Timothy O'Donnell and founder Dr. Warren Carroll in 1991, John Paul II told Carroll that Christendom College is doing a great work for the Church.[21], Pope Benedict XVI also gave his endorsement to Christendom College, saying, I am well aware of the distinguished record of Christendom College and of the outstanding contribution which it has made to Catholic life in the United States. Our on-campus nurse and counselor are available at no cost and can help with trauma and recovery. You use false logic and your pen is sadly misdirected this time. While this student should have somehow received better care, and more protection from this guy later, and while her story is heartrending, it should not be published in an article whose objective is obviously to smear the college and all the good for which it stands. Christendom College will continue to do everything it can to understand how to best respond to these very difficult and tragic situations. Lol, they arent bound by such conventions! What is your point really? After Adele did slap you, you allegedly said, If you slapped me really hard and it really hurt, I wouldnt want to kiss you. It is further alleged that on other occasions you went out of your way to volunteer with groups of friends that Adele had seduced you. In 2013, after Smith had graduated from the school, she again downloaded the student handbook and was aghast to see there was still no language forbidding sexual assault by students. It was oppressively stifling there. Is it worse to let a rapist remain on campus or expel an innocent student? Case in point, when I started going off the rails I would have expected my fellow Catholics to guide me back, especially the older more experienced upper classman I tried to lean on. Badly bungling? They have a right to speak about the crimes committed against them. [36] He has had no interaction with the school since 2015, the college said in an interview with the Northern Virginia Daily, adding that Luckeys relationship with the school would not continue. . It is a Catholic college. Smith texted her boyfriend the next day, saying she didnt want to see him again. [18] The Chapel will officially be dedicated and opened to the public in the spring of 2023. Protected: Podcast 42: Jarods Prancing Musical Show! Doesnt a higher responsibility denote a special power to influence culture? Gary Althen, the editor of the campus paper, refused to apologize for running the article, writing an editorial in which he explained that he himself "hated his country, and had learned to hate it at the University of Colorado.". Ive always thought that would be delightful and I graduated in 2000 from Christendom. She sought psychological help from Dr. Patrick Divietri. We trusted each other and believed ourselves to be a self-selecting group of the Good Guys. They do not invalidate the substance of the story. The school apparently based its response on two facts: First, there was, in 2011, no clause in the student handbook prohibiting sexual assault. My legs were tightly closed. A family member of mine is a graduate and while at Christendom, knew a few students that went to the police about sexual assault. As a campus dedicated to following the teachings of the Catholic Church, we strive to foster an environment where every student feels safe and respected and where the dignity of the human person is upheld and honored. The incident does not seem too unlike the OJ trial in that OJ killed someone and was trialed for something far less severe later on. No one doubts that passion is difficult, that lust is strong and difficult to master. If it isnt its that much harder for anyone to investigate or deal with. How clear is our no, really? The wonderful thing is that in America there are thousands of schools that allow all of those things. That is absurd. She was at a party hosted by her theology teacher, Eric Jenislawski, after a meeting of the Chester-Belloc Debate Society. I do think it unfair and infuriating that in the modern world where young people are wandering in a culture without any norms or mores, women are less protected and offer suffer much more than the men do. We do have a great deal of responsibility. [28] College President Timothy O'Donnell acknowledged victims in an official statement, saying, "We have failed some of our students. Thats certainly not Christendoms fault.. After the sanctions were imposed, Smith and the young man still had classes together, including core classes that were required for all students. Hes taken enough from me; hes not gonna take this.. One professor was quite emphatic than women are less rational, and when I got upset about that well, naturally he put that down to my lack of rationality, plus perhaps a dash of pride. They had a legal responsibility to investigate throughly, and a moral responsibility to respond appropriately, which they did not do. Part II, View Damien and Simcha Fishers profile on Google+, Timothy ODonnell, the president of Christendom, Amanda Graf, the current Director of Student Affairs, https://www.rainn.org/pdf-files-and-other-documents/Public-Policy/Legal-resources/2009-Statutes/09VirginiaStatutes.pdf, http://mydailydiatribes.blogspot.com/2017/12/metoo.html?m=1, Whats for supper? The teachers provide a well rounded education of philosophy, history, theology, literature and political science. I propose for your consideration numerous scenarios of young women and men wherein even if the woman is saying no with her voice, her body language is communicating something entirely different. We have to ask ourselves if its okay for innocent men to have lives ruined for the trade off of punishing all the men who deserve it. So you end up having couples potentially isolate themselves. Your opening arguments point to the dorm situation on campus as a cause for a students rape. @ChristendomVA. While the classes and Catholic culture are unique, the college administration struggles with some modernization of the buildings . In retrospect, I can say, Youre a dummy! But back then, I was nineteen. Protected: Episode 64: Sing with me, pooperellas! Catholics are sinners just like everyone else. I went to a small Catholic school in the 80s and knew all students there did not live up to the standards of the college or the faith. We are in this as a team and pointing fingers at the other sex gets us nowhere. Smith says that the administration cracked down on professors hosting off-campus parties, because they involved drinking. That isnt acceptable, even in secular workplaces, and is a breathtaking accusation. If we want to read that sort of thing, well buy cheap romance novels. I believe in my day there was one security guard who wandered around at night with a flashlight, and that was it. A handbook that is not going to stop a rape. Smith and her brother stayed long after midnight talking, and Jenislawski told her he knew something had happened to her. I attended Steubie in the mid 2000s. After Adele did slap you, you allegedly said, If you slapped me really hard and it really hurt, I wouldnt want to kiss you. It is further alleged that on other occasions you went out of your way to volunteer with groups of friends that Adele had seduced you. No, it takes opening a word document and writing it up: Dont rape people.. We care if you drink off campus, but not if you rape off campus, she said. More concern for an institution than for victims. I understand that everyone has a different experience at college. She told her friends, He had sex with me, and I didnt want to.. Bishop Finn of Kansas City was convicted for failing to report suspected child abuse because he HESITATED to report it. Carroll remained as president until 1985 when Dr. Damian Fedoryka was named as the second president. Glad to hear everyone still hates those fountains. Within a month of the fundraiser's launch, roughly 70%, or $28 million, had been raised for the campaign. Rapists should be tarred and feathered (or worse). I went there to study with him, not go to Franciscan so much. None of us were involved in the off campus drinking by the riveras were all the Trad kidsand no doubt the sexual assault that went with it. She had no objection, as they had kissed before. Good job trying to romanticize rape, but your writing would be more appropriate in a pornographic novel, where creeps actually try to convince themselves women enjoy being raped. Only as an adult did I see the dynamics of power, coercion, grooming and (lack of) consent at play, and even when I began to tell my story, many people brushed it off as in onsequential. I mainly left because they wouldnt give tenure to the head of the sacred music department because he refused to teach the history of contemporary Christian music. If he was accused again in the future, the record would help support that accusation. Like Christendom, Thomas Aquinas College (TAC) in Santa Paula, Calif., is one of many small Catholic liberal arts colleges well known for faithfulness to the magisterium. Supposedly that sentence should stop this from happening again. This is still America. It is a call to be honest about their mistakes, so they can address them in a properly Christian manner. Hes not going to fall for that. On the day of the rape, she re-injured her back while cleaning her room for Homecoming Weekend, and so her new boyfriend suggested that they have a low-key, relaxing date. 1) Paint a picture of the college not doing crap to help victims. All rights reserved. Christendom College: A Love and Hate Letter : r/excatholic - reddit 3) Reinforce this impression with nebulous allegations of serious problems in the current environment. I also disagree with your assessment that author doesnt have a clear stance on whether the student should have been expelled. Oct. 12, 202201:21. Funding for the creation of this archive was generously provided by Christendom College. I eventually burned out on the whole experience around senior year, though it took me until after I graduated to actually question the foundations of the faith I'd spent the last four years pounding into my head (and even longer to finally LEAVE it, but that's another story). Thats just scratching the surface. As alumni claim sexual assault is mishandled, Christendom College vows I dont know what the college should have done or not done. If they had to leave public areas to show affection, then they might as well go to the prettiest. The reports indicate that Adele Smith indicated, after a prior incident with you, that she no longer wanted a relationship with you. Christendom has no love, and without love there is only tyranny. In the late 1970s, Christendom College . "[29][30] This statement has since been removed from the college website. Huh. She describes the open houses that would take place in the dorms once a semester. The Christendom scandal, is about an administration, who got ahold of a case after the legal authorities were already informed and failed to do anything, and then tried to fix the problem in a very lowkey diplomatic way, that would prevent them from being sued by the kids family. I always find it interesting they always try to punish students for drinking off campus, if you come back to campus drunk, Smith said. Rather, the incident apparently occurred in a national park several miles away from Christendoms campus, ODonnell wrote in his letter to Scott Smith. We cant be legal positivists and simply assume anyone 18 or older is an adult. We need to be realists and recognize that being an adult has objective meaning. Asking questions are really good thing if you It does truly permeate the campus. If she feels so strongly about it now and is willing to come out publicly and smear the College, bring him forward as well. The upperclassmen represntives of what Christendom molded you into slapped my hand away. 237: Creative naan compliance, Special Valentines FREE Episode: 20 things we hated about FIREPROOF, Protected: Podcast #65: Sometimes goat is just not GOAT. And, as I said, they were more balanced than the others. No means no. This article does not do justice to the universitys apparent efforts to remain impartial, while also considering how to better serve women who have been raped. #1 . That is degrading to both sexes. [33] The college hired Husch-Blackwell to audit campus compliance with best practices in sexual assault and harassment cases, although it is not bound to do so by Title IX as the College does not accept federal funding of Title IV. nor were the other women I know who hung out with them. Second, the rape occurred off campus; and so the school considered itself helpless to respond to it. In many cases, I doubt it. [3] The college also retired nearly $600,000 in debt without disrupting the growth of the college.[8]. The fact that you think men are walking around Christendoms campus grabbing at womens arses and nobody does anything because their is a boys will be boys attitude just shows how naive you are. Christendom College. If not, then how is the school supposed to levy public punishments that would permittly alter this guys life if the woman would not go forward to authorities? Consent is not nebulous. You have just illustrated the way of thinking that is a big problem: women being taught that they are responsible for mens actions. The Cardinal Newman Society, which publishes an authoritative annual guide to Catholic Colleges, says Christendom makes a point to emphasize virtuous living, which translates to a faithful Catholic lifestyle and strong friendships. While I was a student at Christendom, an off-campus, non-student male pursued a female student across the campus. I am not making this up. The entire passage describing his offense is as follows: Specifically, you admitted: to placing your hand on Adele Smiths knee, attempting to provoke her to slap you and or to kiss you to deal with her frustrations with you, and finally for telling some students around campus that she had seduced you. So despite all their classes and aves and skirts they are going to burn with Luther. The school, itself, is actually quite safe, so safe that even when rape happens among its own students, it has to happen off the school grounds. Same sex dorms is considered strict segregation? And no-one can really know the statistics. Smith, who was then a sophomore, says she was so naive, she didnt even know to use the word rape until many months later. Her article makes plenty of sense. Christendom College is a four-year coeducational Roman Catholic Liberal Arts College with undergraduate and graduate programs offered in locations in Front Royal and Alexandria, Virginia, Donegal, Ireland, and Rome, Italy. The school determined the young man was responsible for the violation of Harassment.. In Adeles case it sounds like the college really did blow it by not giving credence to her rape charge, but did you *really* try to get their side of it before you published your hit piece here? It wouldnt quite be in keeping with her recent essay about letting go of anger. But I want to illustrate the difficulty in really navigating the issue of consent and assault. Elaine Gunthorpe - Christendom College February 28, 2023 Dissident LGBT Catholic group praises university as 'model' for promoting agenda. Karen wrote, reads as if composed by a hypnotized 5 year old.. Is there a clause in the student handbook prohibiting murder? And St. Peters church (or rather the organ there). I have to wonder why people entrust a liberal arts school board to be able to fairly assess rape allegations, when law enforcement werent able to. No matter what your belief now, or if you have no belief at all. I want to know the rapists name. I had been a virgin. If you admit to being a feminist, well, you might as well admit to worshipping Baal. Protected: Podcast 28: The beast with one back, Protected: Podcast 27: My interview with Destiny Herndon-De La Rosa of New Wave Feminists, Protected: Podcast 26: sorryFOR FUCKS SAKEsorry, Protected: Podcast 25: On the tip of my tongue. Imagine for a second if he was expelled, but decided to stay in Front Royal anyway. That takes a lot of strength to write to them like that. Christendom College is a four-year coeducational Roman Catholic Liberal Arts College with undergraduate and graduate programs offered in locations in Front Royal and Alexandria, Virginia, Donegal, Ireland, and Rome, Italy.
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