I was born in Govan in 1941. [10][11], The area was associated with Junior football team St Anthony's who had two grounds in the area. Although Govan was the stated setting for the show, episodes were seldom filmed there. HAPPY TIMES. I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. I stayed in Govan in the early 60's first in a tenement at 118 Govan Road, we stayed in the top storey mum, dad, me, my sister, and baby brother. He said be a good girl, I don't want to see you when you're 17 causing problems. Only neighbours I remember were children Mary and her younger brother James Haggerty who lived in same close which I think was 95 Golspie Street. There was another pub next door, The Bellrock. When we moved to Nitshill in 1060, I realised how much I had loved Govan. From terrace proud to alley base I know thee as my mother's face. We went this year to the Fairfield shipyard museum which was very interesting. Police Scotland. Lots of memories of that area. My maternal grandmother Mary Agnes McDermott and her family came to Govan from Ireland in the early 1900's. On the 21/6/2005 the plans for the future of Govans Central area were publicly revealed showing that housing and concern for unemployment was high on its agenda. By the 1860s, the village needed a higher order of administration and it was made a burgh in 1864, under the General Police (Scotland) Act 1862. From 1815 onwards, a total of 67 men and four women were hanged at the Glasgow Green site, which was once known as Jail Square. My cousin disappeared, the policeman went into the steamie and came out with a bucket of soapy water and a cloth to wipe it off. You can make a complaint by using the report this post link . Community Centre & Play-Park in the Wine Alley, Govan. Wine Alley, the newest wine tasting experience to open at Woodin Creek Village in Woodinville, WA, debuted with a ribbon cutting ceremony and grand opening event on February 18, 2022. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. 100m Freshair Salon . Below are memories and stories about Govan posted by visitors to the site. My father "served his time" in the Thermotank then for many years was a policeman in Plantation Street. I remember living in a single end tenement (1950's) at 77 Nethan Street and the excitement on a Saturday morning when the man delivered the coal in our bunker which was right next to our bed. It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick. Went to Drumoyne primary then Govan High. On 13 July 1577, the teinds of Govan were granted to the University of Glasgow, and the Principal of the University ex officio was appointed minister of the parish. The estate was acquired in the 1870s by the Glasgow and South Western Railway Company and the mansion house was demolished. While debating the (Greenwood) Housing Bill of 1930, the MP John Wheatley insisted that Britain would never get rid of its slum problem as long as it continued to set aside for a particular section of the community an inferior quality of housing The above extract comes from the enquiry that the sociologist Sean Damer wrote on the history of what was regarded as the most notorious slum-housing scheme in the Glasgow of the 1970s, Moorepark, or as it came to be known by Govanites and Glaswegians the Wine Alley of Govan. Socialites Karrueche Tran, left, and Christina Milian attend the Los Angeles premiere of Fox's 'Empire' at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome on January 6, 2015 in Hollywood, California. Comedian. Also remember when we started school in 1943, we had to carry our gas masks with us. This was the catalyst that led local Govanites into despising the peoph of Moorepark, and considering them as different and alien. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. Used to have a friend called Theresa Moody who died quite young. Yup I'll always be from Govan even though we lived a bus ride with the messages away from it in Shieldhall, that was situated near to the 50 pitches, I remember well my Dad and me watching the shipyards football competitions. The partnership works by: A big gang of kids would all go to the pictures on Saturday afternoon and one kid would pay to get in and then would go round to the fire escape door and open it and let the rest of the kids in for free. Govan is served by Govan Subway Station, Ibrox Subway Station and Cessnock Subway Station on the Glasgow subway system. I went about with Harry Bitters, Nick Shearer and John McLeod in the mad days of the early 70s. Skater Girl. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. There was no point in carrying out any raids because the dealers could quickly escape and dispose of their drugs. Site Number NS56NE 4994. Used to spend all summer there paying in twice, having to queue up for second swim with towel around yourself sometimes freezing and having to wait in line. 25 bus to the Gladstone Gospel Hall at the corner of Golspie St and Logie St. Contact Us. who traditionally incorporate the red and black civic colours in the socks of their kit;[43] their Ibrox Stadium has a stand named for Govan (the closest to the heart of the burgh), although officially this was re-named after their former player Sandy Jardine in 2014.[44]. @AlanJParks" Show More . "I like to be challenged and Govan did that every day.". We left Govan when I was two, then lived for five years in Markinch before moving on to Kelty, Cowdenbeath, Armadale, and Rushden down in England. Komunitn organizcia. Readers comments: You are personally liable for the content of any comments you upload to this website, so please act responsibly. Full of great memories. Lived there all the way through the 70's until we moved to Cardonald in 1980. Govan was the site of a ford and later a ferry which linked the area with Partick for seasonal cattle drovers. The area was originally a country estate which contained a mansion house, Moore Park, which was built in the early 19th century for the Hagart family, to plans prepared by the architect David Hamilton. I also went to the Glasgow City Mission which was in Kintra Street, how I loved my childhood. 2 Markus, 1993, p. 148 The huge shoe shop was, I think Bayne and Ducketts. 103m Big Mouth . Mind you, the mice we lifted them out of a glass tank by the tail then put them in thick brown bags of thinnish white boxes for their journey home and I'm convinced most would have chewed through and escaped within minutes of leaving the shop. Jimmy's was our local shop and Ruby's was out local bakery which fed the Fairfield's workers. Playing out in the street with our whip and peeries my sisters and friends would have contests to see who could chalk their peerie with the best colour design. I went to St.Anthonys then St.Gerards, great days, I went back in the 70s and hardly recognized anything, even the people were different, if anybody has any info. I guess I drifted away from Govan for some time although I watched it contract as the shipyard industry faded and that was until my interest was aroused as the company I was working for took up new premisis near the Southern General as it was then. [10], Not much is known about any medieval village that may have surrounded the church until 1454 when it is recorded that whole houses, barns and mills in the village were brought down by a great flood. This company continued until 1965, when it filed for bankruptcy. Know your enemy. The Old Govan Fair. I am looking for the name of a barbers shop that was on Langlands Road at Helen street end. I was born Jan 6th 1951 and brought up in flat above Co-op in Helen Street at Govan Cross, I Went to Harmony Row and Hills Trust Primary schools before moving to Pollok when I was 10 .I have 4 brothers Dave, Bobby, Shuggie, all born in Govan ..and Alastair born in Pollok. Just answering Margaret Fletcher's post below. The School that was situated at the end of Cowie Street was the "Wee Lamby" or Lambhill Junior Primary. I used to know a Maureen Murray who lived about there she would be about 72 now. Lots of memories too many to say here. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. [4] In 1864, Govan gained burgh status, and was the fifth-largest burgh in Scotland. I lived in Kintra Street from 1946 until 1960 and went to Broomloan Road school then Govan High. Scottish Skier February 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM. For (as he says) members of the so-called underclass are not helpless and passive victims of structural circumstances, and that by becoming involved in social, political and economical activities, the community of any area can organise themselves in such a fashion as to understand that community, or collective power, is real.1 The most famous of these housing estates is Moorepark, sometimes referred to jocularly as "The Wine Alley"[22] - this area was named by The Independent newspaper in April 1994 as one of the worst areas in Britain, with drug abuse being a widespread problem and unemployment standing at nearly 30% (up to three times the national average at the time). My gran was Ella Campbell who lived in Greenfield Street during the 50s and 60 s. I went to Hills Trust primary and can remember having to sit my 11 plus exam and passed by the skin of my teeth (lots of mental arithmetic). [17][18], A prominent feature of the Govan landscape was the Doomster or Moot Hill, which stood near the river, north of the present Govan Cross. When they married on the 29/4/1939 they moved to Hillington. In recent years it has seen major improvements with the building of Glasgow Science Centre and the Glasgow Arc, better known as the Squinty Bridge. Got in with the wrong crowd in Wine Alley,Govan, Glasgow,(Rab C Nesbitt Country) usual stuff to start with theft,housebreakings(Burglary to those from England), theft of and from motor vehicles, local gang wars etc, then got into some serious crime such as armed robbery, Gun running between Stranraer to Belfast, serious assaults(GBH), . Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. Next thing, I found myself lying on the ground. Burnside also appeared to take sadistic pleasure in watching them scrabbling about on the ground looking for their hit. With five suspected drug dealers in the cells and 200,000 worth of heroin seized, it had been a very productive day for the police. Saturday afternoons were for the matinees at one of the four movie halls; Lyceum, Plaza, Elder and Vogue. We lived directly opposite the Steamie and I vividly recall playing "ball" against the red brick wall for hours. Within 10 years, Glasgow Corporations repair and maintenance service to the area had declined noticeably because the Corporation was simply not interested. [25], Govan was at one point the centre of the world-renowned Clydeside shipbuilding industry. I'm sure many of these places will have been demolished or renamed but it would be great to hear from anyone who knows of the family or can provide any more details. At the time DS Jackson said: These two cops were the real heroes and were at high risk. NGR Description Centred NS55416 65081. [9], The earliest references to Govan are found in connection with the Christian church. When he had gone, we used to draw pictures in the coal dust on the white sheet on our bed. No1seems2care. I was born in 1946 at 16 Elderpark Street, I had 3 brothers; Harry, Robert and Ronnie, we all went to Greenfield Primary school, Harry and Robert also went to Govan High School and we also went to 168th Boys Brigade and lifeboys. The owner later came in with home-made tablet for all of us. She had two brothers James (b.1924), Michael (b.1928) Agnes (b.1930) and Kathleen (b.1932). My Gran Haggerty lived in 3 Helen Street Govan (above the CO OP). I remember one time, my big brother hiding in the midden under all the ashes, when I went down three stories to empty the fire ashes. contact the editor here. My Granny, Cassie Donaghey stayed at 9 Orkney Street, Govan where I went at weekends and for holidays (Yeah from Drumchapel). When all my pals joined the Lifeboys I went along too for 2 weeks, I think the hall was on Portman or Middlesex Street. Glasgow Braendam Link, Pearce Institute, 840 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, G51 3UU I lived my early years in Govan on Vicarfield Street opposite St. Gerard's School where many of my older cousins attended, amongst them the McCurrys. Forgotten account? Brian McQuade, Reflection on Housing In fact, Glasgow Corporation was so determined to place many of the cities socially deprived into Moorepark that they even advertised for them in the newspapers. Non-governmental organisations working in the field such as the Church, charitable organisations, etc., have for a long time advocated Community Planning or management of the urban environment as the best solution to this problem of how to give a better quality of life to many of the citizens of our country. Finalists in the Intermediate Cup 1929-30, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moorepark,_Glasgow&oldid=1142353497, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 1 March 2023, at 23:16. And I went to see Grease at The Liceum on Govan Road. Janet Logan (Williamson) I remember your family. I went to St. Margaret's and I remember Susan's shop where she would stand outside to see where people where buying their messages from. Nothing but grateful for my early Govan years. Around this time heroin dealing was rife in Govan, particularly in an area called Moorepark, which was nicknamed Wine Alley. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. Don't think I enjoyed my time at Govan High, who did but I remember the english teacher Johnny Duncan, Jock Reiburn (maths), who was strict but gave me a good basic knowledge of algebra which stood me in good stead for my future in engineering. Thus, when Renfrewshire was created out of a sheriffdom of Lanarkshire in the early fifteenth century, the lands associated with the hospital (Polmadie) were not technically in the newly created shire, as they were not part of the sheriffdom. Through the ages people have lived in houses, building them according to the climate, topography, the material available, and the social and cultural ideas of the time. Second, two documents from the Social Exclusion Unit (SEU), which focus on the decline of the urban neighbourhood, argue that the decline almost always starts with a lack of work. [12], There is an oddity whereby part of eighteenth-century parish of Govan (which was in Lanarkshire) is counted as being within Renfrewshire. USA. Community organisation. However, there is the potential for tourism development, for example, the planned development of the Govan Old site, which hosts the historically significant stone carvings, has led to the development of the surrounding townscape and new infrastructure. Clyde News. Maureen Doyle was my name then. Regular bus services, mainly operated by McGill's Bus Services and First Glasgow, offer frequent routes to Glasgow City Centre, as well as to numerous locations in Renfrewshire. Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company was renamed Govan Shipbuilders in 1973. Related Pages. Our young sister was married in St. Anthony's years later. The evidence they gathered was crucial and the jury was able to see the gang operating on the video footage shown to them. My Aunt Marg and Cousin Debbie still live in Govan. My mum's brother Spinx (George Hewitt) stayed in Teucharhill and my dad's brother Alex Rodgers drove a milk float. 114m Nailsby Taylor . I lived at 2 Robert street, Govan, we moved there from Tower Street, Kinning Park, I went to Harmony Row school (1959/60) then moved up to Hills Trust primary and after that went to Broomloan Road secondary school, that was shut down and we were moved to Govan High comprehensive around 1967/1968. As for our childhood and growing up in Govan we would never change a thing, there was everything in Govan any child wanted and we never ever suffered from boredom after school, we were outside playing peever, rounders, climbing dykes, swimming at the pool and rolling our Easter eggs down the hill at Bellahouston Park. The Bookies, Archie and Peter Logan ran their Book from the back court. Men and Boys by Hugh Cavanagh. In 1855, an elaborately carved sandstone sarcophagus was found during digging in the churchyard. This work was focused on parent-child. Pagini similare. I was born in 1961. Gran was Annie Murphy but her dad died when she was 4 and her mother remarried John Johnston and went on to have a huge number of children - and as we research the family, we keep finding more. The Wine Alley is a boutique wine shop specializing in fine wines from the Pacific NW and Around the world! Above is a quote from a seasoned Timfrom the unfairly labelled Wine Alley (Moorpark) area, once of greater Govan, just off Broomloan Road. I then went to Govan High, teachers I remember and not with any fondness are Jockey Rayburn (Maths) Duncan (English) and Miss Downny (Maths) who was a lovely teacher, I had two brother George and Stuart who also went to the same primary and also went to Govan High. It was just before I packed in this job that I met Sean Damer when he came to our house to some of the family in 1974. I was brought up on Broomloan Road, Ibrox across from Ibrox high flats.the Ibrox house pub was just up road from me as well. [16] In 1912, Glasgow annexed Govan after a series of annexation battles. He and his pals jumped out and I ran back up three stories screaming. THURSO BERWICK (1919-1981) Hullo! Glorious Govan. Glorious Govan. 124m D.C Hair&Beauty . Added to these miseries, Damer also found that drug 9/1 There is absolutely no hiding from the fact that no Section 30 is the bullying action of a . Reading the posts recognised a few names. The authors would like to thank Glasgow Braendam Link, The Faith in Community (Scotland) Transformation Team, Oxfams UK Poverty Programme, and the Poverty Alliance for suggesting the idea of this project for the worlds Poverty Day on October 17th 2005. I would so love to hear from you if you do. and education and learning came into my thoughts. Log In. I agreed and the result is the Report, which you now have today which is meant for the October 17th World Poverty Day. Now home to a business park, the Wineywas a working class scheme designed by urban planners with little to no regard for those cut from the labouring class cloth. Laurel Brook. Our father would be home right before we had to leave for school, so he would take us as it was not safe to cross Langlands Rd., Unfortunately, the week before Christmas in 1943, our grandfather was killed by a bus right at the Vogue cinema. Darners later thoughts on a solution to the schemes problems were that it could be found in Community Planning for, as he says, members of the underclass are not helpless and passive victims of structural circumstances. I loved it there we could watch the ships being built and then launched from the bedroom window. Yes Danny, Hamilton Street was renamed to Nethan Street between 1931 and 1932. The police discovered an empty flat on the eighth floor which would give them a birds eye view of the entrance to Burnsides tenement flat close. Burnside, 42, known as the Godfather, lived on the top-floor flat of his tenement. [9] It had also been parodied by the BBC Scotland television comedy series Rab C. Nesbitt, with Wine Alley and the wider Govan area the stated setting for the show, though episodes were seldom filmed there. Govan has had several local newspapers over the years such as the Govan Chronicle and Govan Press published by the Cossar Family (1851-1983) and by John Maclean (20062014) which also served the communities of Kinning Park, Cardonald, Penilee and Hillington, and the Govan Post (19831988) published by Cook, Paton & Co. of Paisley, now part of Dunfermline Press. I too, have fond memories of playing and performing small shows, and we all thought we could act. Glasgow Braendam Link, aims to support, empower and enable all those involved in the partnership to gain more control of their lives by encouraging self-belief, growth and development. Knowing a house which was empty he pre-emptively sought approval from the council to use it as part of the operation. Three times during my young life I was sent away to residential schools for being undernourished while just before my 14th birthday I was put away in an approved school (in 1963) for a large number of burglaries. I attended Notre Dame School and Jackie told customers this to reassure them of the standard of my handwriting! We had and still have such a loving family even although our parents and grandparents have passed, but Govan made us that way because it was a great community and you knew who your neighbours were. I was born and brought up in Drumoyne. I remember Betty McPhee, Margaret Liversidge, the Gourlay brothers and Brian Wilson.We lived in the top floor for a few years and the moved to bigger flat on first floor with a bathroom. Next thing I know, this policeman appeared, he looked like a giant and he asked me what was I doing. . They also told police that the same man would rent out a larger car about once a month. Read More I would like to know if anyone remembers these times. An isolated island of cheap building land, Glasgow Corporation bought the Moorepark land and in 1934 built the Moorepark Housing Estate, a typical Glasgow rehousing scheme of three-storey grey concrete-block tenements. Govan railway station opened on 2 December 1868. Alley & Vine. I have many happy memories of Govan. ; Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. One day in the Summer, off we went to the Steamie, everybody went in, my Cousin and I stayed outside. Many members of the family were married at St Anthonys Chapel. Within a years, Moorepark had gained the abusive epithet of the Wine Alley. Vezi mai multe de la Sunny Govan Memories pe Facebook. 122m The Govan Shed . Editors' Code of Practice. 9 Goodlad, and Meegan, 2005, p. 188, Community Power in Community Planning I was searching for Harry Lauder pictures and came across this interesting site. We lived in Linthouse at that time, and then we moved to Shaw Street in Govan. [15], With Morris Pollok as its first Provost, the Burgh and its Commissioners ensured that during the next 48 years Govan became a well-equipped, modern town. My family lived at 100 Harmony Row, Govan until I was 10 (born 1953), I lived there with my father Guido Gonnella, my mom Susan, brother William and sisters Helen Marie and Susan also lived with us. I don't know the name though and wondered if anyone could remember it. So, at the age of 46 I started three years of studies with projects that involved Govan Initiative and Glasgow University until I was finally accepted as a full-time student at Glasgow. When the railway was to be built in the late nineteenth century, however, the confusion over proper descriptions in the land titles made necessary legal transactions difficult and had to be reconciled. It was only a community concerted campaign, (which included a long rent strike) waged by the various groups of residents, that the Glasgow District Council agreed to re-house all of the remaining tenants. This latter kingdom, established in the aftermath of the Viking siege and capture of Alt Clut by Vikings from Dublin in AD 870, created the sandstone sculptures known today as the Govan Stones. Robert sadly passed away when he was 2 and then my dad James was born in 1960. Wine Alley by Colin Quigley. They were, however, very much a part of the physical landscape that became Renfrewshire. This was a very hard job physically where we would carry a wicker basket (full of ashes, etc.) Introduction During the two-week surveillance every addict who called at Burnside's flat for drugs was then arrested by the team and questioned. pigella miraculous ladybug power. Lastly, the reflections are intended to be used as a tool among the many Church, statutory, voluntary, and charitable organisations, to aid and encourage a fresh approach to the eradication of poverty in our lives today. We were also in the Choir at Govan Parish church and in the B.B. George and Mary Breslin's, 2 boys (Raymond and Michael), William & Margaret Gallagher's boy and girl (Charles and Maureen) and John & Annie Mc Culloch's 2 girls and 1 boy ( Elizabeth, Mary and John) which was us. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. Went back to show someone the building, but it was gone. . Sad to see Govan now but many happy memories. Again, where were the democratic, caring authorities when the 1987-1990 Glasgow Housing Condition Survey found that in a third of the citys houses suffered from condensation, dampness and mould and did little about it?
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